jarandhel:
tolivealifeinflame:
The person who I was refering to has degenerative disc disease. She’s tried holding down jobs before and can’t. Another person can’t because of mental issues. I don’t think I could because of mental and physical issues. All of us have reasons for wanting this, maybe you don’t and that’s fine but don’t assume that we’re just whining.
If you can’t hold down a job because of mental and physical issues, how do you suppose you’ll be able to run a shelter for others? That is a full-time job. As for the various issues you’ve listed, none of those sounds like they’re caused by being otherkin. And there are resources that already exist to help people in the positions you’re describing. What would be gained by an explicitly otherkin shelter?
But gathers are only once a month/every other month/whatever. Sometimes transport doesn’t work out. Sometimes you don’t have the mental or physical energy to deal with it that day, sometimes you just can’t make it. It’s not fair that we are restricted to just those times. We should be able to have a place to go to
“It’s not fair”… to quote Labyrinth, you say that so often. I wonder what your basis for comparison is. If you can’t make it to a gather, hold a meetup. It doesn’t take much planning, just getting your friends together at a coffee shop or restaurant. If I wanted to, I could have a meetup going within an hour just by tweeting and facebooking to local kin and seeing who wanted to hang out. Granted, I’m in the DC metro area so I have an advantage of a large pool of kin to draw from. If you’re somewhere where that doesn’t exist, creating a “shelter” isn’t really going to help unless you can provide transportation and financial support for any of the kin who come to you from out of the area. If you can’t hold down a job, I’m guessing that’s not very likely.
I have nothing against humans, I’m dating a human, mmost of my friends have human. My favorite artists and writers are probably human. Humans create wonderful things and I don’t think that just becuase I want an organization, means that I am anti-human.
Thinking you need an organization to shelter you from the human world sounds pretty anti-human to me. ”I have friends who are humans” or not.
It just means I want the same things that other beings have. You’re right about minorities not being victims but they do have organizations, the blind, the Hispanic, the deaf. Some of them have schools, some of them have meetups, they have scholarships and they have community houses. I’m just saying that I think otherkin deserve at least that.
The blind and deaf both have them. Other people might have them as well, I just have had no reason to be informed. Just because we don’t know about them doesn’t mean they don’t exist.
To what end, exactly? What would otherkin need with a school, a scholarship, or a “community house”? We’ve already got meetups.
Organizations? What would a serious otherkin organization do? There have been attempts at otherkin organizations in the past which haven’t worked out well at all. There’s a reason why I mentioned safe houses and the war with humans meme. That was espoused by one of the last otherkin organizations who wanted to do “otherkin outreach, support, and education”.
It wouldn’t be just me working on this. The whole reason I mentioned it in the first place was to gauge interest and see who would be willing to help set something up. It would be a group effort, something people can gather together and say ‘Yes, I had some part in this’.
I completely admit that I could not do this by myself but the point isn’t to do it by myself, the point is to create something with people for people.
The problem with getting my friends together is that they are all over the country. I don’t have many friends n the state and the ones that I do have are human and I haven’t told them that I am otherkin yet. They aren’t very close friends, they’re people that I’ve meant through the kink community and only see them through the few gathers I have managed to go to but again, getting to gathers and having the mental energy to deal with them doesn’t often happen for me, so I* haven’t gotten the chance to get close enough to them where I feel comfortable telling the that I am otherkin.
My partner lives about an hour away from me and it takes three hours on busses and they don’t have the money to come and see me when I need them all the time. This isn’t something I expect them to do, I’m not saying they should be at my beck and call but sometimes you need more than support online and having something that some people can go to would be nice. At least to me.
As for where I would set it up, I probably would not do it in my area, I would do research fist and see where there seems to be a large population of otherkin. I would see if there’s interest there for a physical place for them to go to and, if there is, I would start trying to see what I could do. I would start talking to people and seeing what they think should be done and where I should go from that point after I have the research.
It’s not anti-human to want a place to call your own, it’s normal. Again, I feel like you’re holding the word shelter against me when I flat out said that I wasn’t sure that was the word I was looking for, I thought it was but as I’ve mentioned, I’ve not gotten much sleep in the last few days, so my brain is a bit rattled and not working correctly. Outreach program might have been better, community center may ahve been better. There have been suggestions for better words and I am open and willing to accept them.
It’s more than obvious that you have a problem with this idea and that’s fine, you are entitled to yoru opinion, I just think that, if I gave this a go, it could be different than what’s been established in the past. I was just trying to think of something that I thought people could benefit from and use. I’m not trying to be anti-human, I’m not trying to create a revolution, I leave that to other people, I’m just trying to create a safe space where pe9ople can take off the masks they wear and be themselves for a while. That’s it, that’s all. I’m sorry if you interpreted it as anything else but that’s all I want.